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According to bleacher report.com it is but that isn't the most reliable site. Sorta like listening to Bruce Porningham. Anyway, SF has 2 #1s at 13 and 17. Oz would push for the 13th spot and shot at Dez Bryant. Or the top pass rusher. The Ravens better make damn sure they plug the hole when Gaither leaves but they must be pissed at him to be shopping him if this is true. And all this after low-tendering him. Also, Ravens can't afford to pay Oher and Gaither. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=69&f=1922&t=5692543
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TRAP wrote:According to bleacher report.com it is but that isn't the most reliable site. Sorta like listening to Bruce Porningham. Anyway, SF has 2 #1s at 13 and 17. Oz would push for the 13th spot and shot at Dez Bryant. Or the top pass rusher. The Ravens better make damn sure they plug the hole when Gaither leaves but they must be pissed at him to be shopping him if this is true. And all this after low-tendering him. Also, Ravens can't afford to pay Oher and Gaither. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=69&f=1922&t=5692543 Trap: Where is the replacement for Gaither? I don't see it on the team. Your right that we can't pay Gaither and Oher. Yanda is better as a guard. I'm sure someone will be cut that we could plug in on the Right side. I just don't want Flacco on his azz. The one weakness Flacco has is that he holds on to the ball too long. It's mainly because he really tries to make something happen down field. We need someone to give him all the time he needs.
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That's the big question but Oz would have 2 #1s.
He could even get Dallas' 27th spot and package it for a top 10 pick or just sit pat with 2 #1s and draft a pass rusher which would be one of the top guys plus the top tackle.
A lot of o-linemen are going in the top 15.
Or he could make another trade.
This is what I said about Oher last year. EVen Billick won 80 games before Michael Oher with a patched up line including the trophy with a cheap line across the middle - Muli, Mitchell and Flynn.
Oz will find someone but he can't afford both Gaither and Oher because Gaither is on his way to a $50M deal.
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Any idea on what Gaither has left on his contract? They were saying yesterday that if they traded Gaither, they would move Oher over to left tackle, move Yanda to RT and Chester back to starting guard. What scares me is we will be one injury away from seeing Oneil Cousins protecting JF at tackle.
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No they wouldn't.
Oz could use the extra #1 to get the mmmmtoh linemen in the draft. There are a lot of OTs going in the first 15 or get swomeone later on.
Gaither is at least A RFA to get low tendered and a draft choice if he leaves.
Ravens arent pleased with his work habits or nagging injuries and don't believe he is worth the big pay day.
Moving Oher to LT has reen rumored since day 1.
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[quote=TRAP]No they wouldn't.
Oz could use the extra #1 to get the mmmmtoh linemen in the draft. There are a lot of OTs going in the first 15 or get swomeone later on.
Gaither is at least A RFA to get low tendered and a draft choice if he leaves.
Ravens arent pleased with his work habits or nagging injuries and don't believe he is worth the big pay day.
Moving Oher to LT has reen rumored since day 1.
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Trap, that would not make sense to draft a OT 2 years in a row in the 1st round, no matter how many picks you have. However, I think a better solution would be to get a released vet and draft a tackle in the lower rounds to develop. If you drafted a top notch tackle again, we still would not to be able to pay two good tackles with the other salaries out there. Especially since we now have some good players on the offensive side of the ball.
Ray Rice
Joe Flacco
Michael Oher
LeRon McClain
The Ravens can only afford to throw the big money at one O-lineman.
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You're right, that wouldn't make sdense but I was just explaining Ozzie's options to Prone.
The point is, he'll get somebody in the draft even later on.
Scott and Jeremy said last night that Ozzie will take the BAA.
If Oz scores a WR at 17th spot and he drops to the 25th he will take him.
If it's a D-guy he will take him.
If it's the top o-linemen in the draft, he will take him like he did JO even though he had one of the biggest and best lines at the time.
Most likely, the OT will come in the later rounds.
Agian, I was just pointing out the options and that Ozzie will cover the Ravens with somebody.
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TRAP wrote:You're right, that wouldn't make sdense but I was just explaining Ozzie's options to Prone.
The point is, he'll get somebody in the draft even later on.
Scott and Jeremy said last night that Ozzie will take the BAA.
If Oz scores a WR at 17th spot and he drops to the 25th he will take him.
If it's a D-guy he will take him.
If it's the top o-linemen in the draft, he will take him like he did JO even though he had one of the biggest and best lines at the time.
Most likely, the OT will come in the later rounds.
Agian, I was just pointing out the options and that Ozzie will cover the Ravens with somebody.
Trap: Man, every since you posted about the Possibility of us getting another 1st round pick, it would really put us over the top. Man, this would be huge! If we get inside the top 12 we would have a shot at Dez Bryant. Because of our track record with 1st round picks, man we could get the BAA and fill a need at the same time. I have a feeling, one of those teams will try to get Gaithers. I hope so. If you look at our history in the draft, that would give us 2 new starters at least. I think it would give us 3 by season end.
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Absolutely.
That's what all the boards are saying. We could end up with Dez if we trade Gaither.
Just about everyone is praying or hoping for that.
If not Dez, there's a good chance Oz could get Gresham even at 25 but if he had 2 #1s he could land Gresham and Graham or whomever he has rated the best.
I would love to see Kyle Wilson in the mix who was the best corner in the Sr Bowl. Don't know where Ozzie rates him.
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TRAP wrote:Absolutely.
That's what all the boards are saying. We could end up with Dez if we trade Gaither.
Just about everyone is praying or hoping for that.
If not Dez, there's a good chance Oz could get Gresham even at 25 but if he had 2 #1s he could land Gresham and Graham or whomever he has rated the best.
I would love to see Kyle Wilson in the mix who was the best corner in the Sr Bowl. Don't know where Ozzie rates him. Trap: The thing that scares me is Cincy taking or targeted we want at 25. They pick at 21 and it's no secret that they need receiver help also. If we don't get the extra 1st round pick, Cincy would take the TE or WR we would take.
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Money wise, you can't keep two quality left tackles. Remember when Ogden came in, he played left guard for one year and then went to left tackle. I believe the left tackle the first year was Jones, but someone can correct me on it. Anyway, he was a really good left tackle but the Ravens couldn't keep both so they let Jones go the second year and gave Ogden the job.
I see the same thing happening here. You don't want to tie up that much money in one area and then be weak in another.
As for the low tender, I believe that was because either way it would mean a first rounder as compensation since we got him in the first round of the supplemental draft.
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Ravenone wrote:TRAP wrote:Absolutely.
That's what all the boards are saying. We could end up with Dez if we trade Gaither.
Just about everyone is praying or hoping for that.
If not Dez, there's a good chance Oz could get Gresham even at 25 but if he had 2 #1s he could land Gresham and Graham or whomever he has rated the best.
I would love to see Kyle Wilson in the mix who was the best corner in the Sr Bowl. Don't know where Ozzie rates him. Trap: The thing that scares me is Cincy taking or targeted we want at 25. They pick at 21 and it's not secret that they need receiver help also. If we don't get the extra 1st round pick, Cincy would take the TE or WR we would take. Good point. Cinci has screwed us before. Ozzie wanted Levi Jones who was projected to go between 15-20. We were around 22 I think. Oz was hoping he'd drop or close enough to trade up. Bungles took him at #10. They could have traded down to #15 and still grabbed him saving millions but didn't know it. They've scrwed us other times as well. Good point on the tender Penn. You're right.
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